An event that organizers are calling Magnolia Airspace Celebration is set for Wednesday (3/30) from 6:30 – 8:30 pm at Mulleady’s Irish Pub. The Magnolia Community Club is throwing the party to honor the people who fought the changes in airspace over Magnolia.
Concerns were expressed when the FAA proposed changes that would have lowered the floor for flights over Magnolia from 3000 feet to 2000 feet above sea level. That would have resulted in larger planes flying lower and with more frequency over Magnolia. The Magnolia Community Club collected and forwarded 77 pages of petitions to the FAA in opposition to the proposal. After the public input, the FAA announced earlier this month that it was dropping the plan.
The opposition effort was championed by MCC Trustee Robert Bismuth and backed by King County Councilmember Larry Phillips who will both attend the celebration.
The MCC says: ?To the best of our knowledge, this is an unprecedented accomplishment for a grassroots effort of this kind.
We would like to celebrate the efforts of everyone who showed up for meetings, wrote letters, sent email, or made phone calls on behalf of this campaign and to honor our community leaders by extending our thanks over a glass of cheer and light snacks.?
Tickets are $10 per person and all proceeds after food and beverage costs will be donated to Northwest Harvest. Click here to purchase a ticket.
Will the celebrators be catching their farts in wine glasses and smugly sniffing them?
No, they’ll be playing up their Magnolia stereotype.
A Mr. Burns figure who spends their nights sitting in their sprawling mansion, a glass of brandy in their shriveled hand.
No, they’ll be playing up their Magnolia stereotype.
A Mr. Burns figure who spends their nights sitting in their sprawling mansion, a glass of brandy in their shriveled hand.
I guess episodes to the “smug” South Park episode aren’t welcome here :-/
Err, references.
One small victory-yes, congratulations and thank you to everyone. HOWEVER, on my daily walks with my dog, I have in the past week counted 27 aircraft in 24 minutes-all in the Magnolia airspace. Every flavor. A couple of weeks ago I counted 28 in 32 minutes. Please don’t rest on your laurels-tell us what you’ll do about the “rest of the story…” thank you.
What is the “Magnolia Airspace”?
Please provide lateral and vertical boundaries. You realize these aircraft service the community and the state, right? Do you want all aircraft removed from eyesight?
My issue is I moved here in the late 1980s, and there was not near the level of noise from airplanes or traffic. The change took place in the mid to late 1990s when SeaTac restricted all planes to be the quieter “Stage 3” engines. Many shipping companies with noiser planes (many use older retired passenger jets) moved to King County Airport which is less restrictive. That was when the traffic really increased over Magnoila…and these shippers like UPS all ship late at night and early morning to make their overnight delivery commitments. Even as King County airport raised their standard to require “Stage 3” engines, they still allow shippers to install “cheater” Stage 3 “hush kits” that mimic the quietness of a real Stage 3 engine, at least as far as meeting the standards, but in real world use, they are still much noiser that a true Stage 3 engine. FWIW.
How many Boeing 727s and DC8s do you still see around? How many aircraft with JT8D’s + hush kits?
There’s only one DC8 that flies into BFI maybe once a day during normal daylight hours. Aside from the occasional DC9 and JPATS MD80, I don’t see any old stuff making a ruckus. I once saw an Antonov, but its cool factor made up for any noise produced.
In my opinion, the worst offenders when it comes to noise that makes me look up are:
This one Chinese Cargo 747-400 that departs Seattle to the north and turns over Magnolia to the northwest at ~4-5AM every day.
The UPS MD-11’s in the early evening.
The UPS 767 and 757s in the early evening.
Propeller aircraft going into BFI who fly really really low.
Kenmore Air guys flying really really low to stay under the ceiling.
Congrats on the victory. My famly and I are considering buying a house in magnolia and have serious concerns about the noise problem. Ive tried to get an idea of just how bad it is from this site and others. My main concern is the night time noise. Can someone give me a candid breakdown of how bad the problem is? For example, Are you awakened every morning at 2am and again at 3 am? I really appreciate it. We’re considering making an offer on a house next week. Thanks!
Chad
Congrats on the victory. My famly and I are considering buying a house in magnolia and have serious concerns about the noise problem. Ive tried to get an idea of just how bad it is from this site and others. My main concern is the night time noise. Can someone give me a candid breakdown of how bad the problem is? For example, Are you awakened every morning at 2am and again at 3 am? I really appreciate it. We’re considering making an offer on a house next week. Thanks!
Chad
I’ve never woken up from an aircraft in magnolia.
I have heard aircraft I felt were a bit noisy and went outside to look, and they were always US Military or Paul Allens MiG-29.
You know what the response you get when you call up the military?
(You) Yes hello, I would like to report a very loud military aircraft flying overhead!
(Military) Oh my! Tell me, did it have a Chinese Red Star or a Russian flag on it?
(You) Uhh, no.
(Military) Oh good, then it must have been one of ours, don’t worry then.
-click-
I have never woke up due to airplanes in Magnolia. I don’t live close to the cruise ships or the train tracks so don’t have a problem there. The only thing is the bus that goes by every 30 minutes on 34th by my place, however i am so used to it I don’t hear it anymore!
I am woken up by night air traffic a few times per month….it was worse several years ago…but seems to have lessened some. I live on 34th as well. Bus traffic doesn’t bother me. Air traffic from UPS at 4am does. 🙁
I was a prolific caller to the airport noise hotline at King County Airport for about three years a decade ago…but gave up when it was obvious it did nothing. I’m sure they still fondly remember me….NOT. lol
I have never woke up due to airplanes in Magnolia. I don’t live close to the cruise ships or the train tracks so don’t have a problem there. The only thing is the bus that goes by every 30 minutes on 34th by my place, however i am so used to it I don’t hear it anymore!